omnom jälleen ihanaa työtä! ;U; Osaat aina valita oikeat värit näihin kuviin.... Taisiis värimaailmat on aina ihania näissä :"D *maailman paras selittäjä* Ja sitten tykkään noista isoista tassuista, korvista, silmistä, asennosta ja KAIKESTA! >U< Kerrassaan ihana kuva! Faveen lentää~>
Sinulta taas pitkästäaikaa jotain todella söpöä ouo Niin tää oli se palkinto pakko myöntää että kateeksi käy kun dinnea voitti noin hienon xDD Mutta joo.. Tykkään kovasti tuosta ilmeestä, tassuista, laseista ja taustakin on jotenkin sopiva :3
I don't myself call this 'new' style, because the drawings I drew with my previous style and posted on the net were drawn only for other people - because most of people prefer cute style. So it's more like my own style. And because I want to work hard to improve myself, I realized that I was doing it wrong. Well, of course I don't know about other opinions, but to me art is something you should enjoy, especially when you're the one who make it. It's also the way to express yourself so... well, I think everyone got the point already.
But if you like cute style, you're kinda lucky. DeviantART and the whole Internet is full of artists who have cute style, so I'd recommend you to go ahead and find something you like. ^^
NeivraFeatured By OwnerMay 7, 2012Student Digital Artist
There's no need to misunderstand my comment into a hostile one as I do not prefer emoticons or as you would say, smileys.
I just generally expressed that I liked the last one a lot more. I don't think there's nothing wrong in expressing your own opinion, I think it's the other way around. Atleast I would be happy to hear what other people think of my style if they were there to view it.
Just had to comment as I'm watching you and saw these "new style" pics(as I would say as I haven't seen this style before you now brought it up all recently, around the beginning of this year)
As I said, expressing self is one's right, I said nothing about that and I never ment to comment on that one. Just started wondering what's with the sudden style change, nothing more and nothing less, yet nothing hostile at all.
I'm not too much into übercute, I'm more into realistic, but just expressed openly my opinion that the style you used before taking this one back was, in my opinion, better. Of course everyone has their rights to have their opinions about this, even the artist him/herself. Yet it would cool aswell if the artist didn't take such a comment too hardly or too hostile if it wasn't ment that way ^^ I don't mean bad as I comment, I just want to bring out my opinion. Afterall, we live in a country with free will to express your opinion and say it out loud. So if I did something wrong here, my deepest apologies.
I'm sorry if my comment appeared too contentious. I didn't mean it to be that way, I just wanted to explain the style change in the works in my gallery. Because I thought that would be just fine, considering the line in your last comment: "Just started wondering what's with the sudden style change, nothing more and nothing less, yet nothing hostile at all." Though I'm not even trying deny that I suck at words so the misunderstanding would be completely understandable. So, sorry for being... well, what ever I was being.
I never said that your opinion would be wrong - because it isn't. I, personally, think there's as many truths as the opinions. So I appreciate you for expressing yours. And that's why I appreciate every comment I get, whatever it contains.
I'm glad that you liked my old works, because I really did hard work with them. That just wasn't "hard work" in a positive way because I had to work too much to keep the style that would please other people. I want to enjoy drawing as I did before. And when I'm saying 'before', I mean the time when I was, like, 11-13. I didn't draw as a need of popularity, but just for myself. And now I want to be that way again, to be honest to myself and to others.
It's amazing to keep someone in your Watch list even if you don't like him/her works as much as you used to be. But in the end, I'm just one in a billion and though my drawings are kinda big deal to me, they don't have to be that to everyone. And I understand this. Because, things change and they're not always a good thing, not to everybody. Sometimes you must, or rather can let go of them. I'm not saying that you would be one watcher among the others, because nobody is. But I just want to say, that I will appreciate your decision if you someday stop following my work or not.
Even though I can't know sure, I think the both of us misunderstood each others. And in the end, it's not the people who conflict, it's the words.
NeivraFeatured By OwnerMay 7, 2012Student Digital Artist
Ah. My apologies aswell then. During all the over ten years of roleplaying, over 90% of them happening in english, I've learned to follow the grammar too much to sometimes even not notice if someone misspells something or doesn't mean it in the way as it is formed. These days my roleplaying is 100% in english, every day for over 5 hours of roleplaying sessions. Though I've swapped from forum RPG's to MMORPG's and to their RPG servers. Though it is not the games that keep me roleplaying in the games, it's my characters and my roleplaying company.
I never intended to form my sentences into the way of it you would've said it in that way, yet as we all know. We cannot read the tone through internet, which usually boosts the fact that we might misunderstand the meaning of a sentence as a sentence itself can have many meanings, even a single word can mean all different things to a different person. I also honor the fact that you appreciate every comment. It's rare these days. Most of the people I comment on just either try to rant over my comment or just ignore it as I try to be as honest as I can.
Also, you didn't do anything wrong. Most likely it was just my mind twisting the sentences inside my head in a wrong way, understanding meaning of the sentence a little wrong. Happens to me usually, which is why I ask them to elaborate me the meaning of their previous sentence if I do not get it.
Aswell as that you really enjoy your style is admirable. There are many of us who have worked for their style to be noticed. I tried to do all übercute for years, trying to please only others, mostly on my early years trying to get attention from my family. Yet later on as my roleplaying became my daily routine, I realized that I draw how I want and how I like. It is our own business in the end if we enjoy the art or not. I only use the most effort on art that is not for myself(which can most likely be seen from my works), such as commissions and requests.
I've been trying to please others for years, so I am fully aware of how it feels. Yet then I met a sweet person who taught me that I do not need to please others, yet it does not mean that I can be rude either. Meeting him changed me in person, making me calm and wide-minded person, open to all opportunities of this world. It also opened my eyes to the small joys of this life, such as the joy of singing, drawing and roleplaying itself. So I see it as admirable that a person quits pleasing others, starting to draw the way they have wanted to. Makes me smile to know that I'm not the only one over here who has realized the same.
I keep my watchlist as same. It does not matter to me if a person changes their style, yet it does not change the person who I've watched. I mostly watch them after I've viewed how they act towards others, no matter if they are amazing artists or beginners. Afterall, I first added you to watch because I was in your forum RPG ages ago. ^^ I know you are a nice and sweet person. That's all that matters to me when I watch a person. I find something beautiful in every single person's style, even if I don't like the output itself. Examply I love the way you colour and the way you draw eyes. They attract me in a way, making me to view your pics, even though I'm not really into the output itself.
And yes. I think we both misunderstood a little. Me most likely because of my habit to think with the grammar. And again, I apologize this.
And as you said, in the end. It is not us who are fighting here, as there is no need for a rant over a misunderstanding.
Yeah, the lack of the non-verbal communication is probably the biggest reason to cause misunderstanding. But that's also why I don't usually judge people by how they express their opinions in the Internet, I just concentrate on the opinion itself, if that made any sense. And like everyone can see, I'm not very good at English myself so it's yet kinda ordinary to me to get misunderstood - and so I can misconstrue other people as well.
I don't personally understand the people who ignore comments, usually just because they want only one kind of feedback - usually praises etc. Or sure I can be wrong, too, because I know someone who just don't know how to answer them but tries to take advantage of them. But it can't be denied that there's those people who, for example, blow their top because of every critique they get. In my opinion, the different opinions are one of the things that make the life rich and when it's a question of art, it's an important element to improve your skills. Of course the decision is eventually up to the artist but it doesn't mean that hearing of what other people may think would be needless.
I think you've got a great point there when it comes to the watchlist thing. I kinda do the same, even though I usually watch people right away if I just like their drawings, but if they for exapmple turn out to be somehow rude to other people, they've got a chance to lose their place in my watchlist. I've also watched some people even though I don't like something in their drawings. As for my experences so far, it's usually the style I like and the subject might not meet my likings.
But anyway, thank you for understanding. ^^ Even though my English skills are far from perfect, it was pleasant to have a conversation like this.
NeivraFeatured By OwnerMay 8, 2012Student Digital Artist
To add to that misunderstanding, I felt like saying it out loud in five minutes [link] Because that's how it goes when the communication lacks one important thing; Way to express your tone without spamming emoticons.
I usually await critic from my artwork, even from my sketches. I'm not really into people going all hyper, if they do, only telling what's so awesome in the pic. I require the critic and I keep it as important as the nice comments. Afterall, noone is perfect and we all got something to improve in, as you most likely said, yet with different words.
Oh. And it is fine ^^ I tend to try to think things from another fiew, especially other person's view. It's important that we see things with each other's eyes to really understand that just being rude isn't right and it makes even the rude person sad. I noticed grammar mistakes and typoes, but they were so minor that I hardly even noticed them. Or well.. knowing me I did, but I don't want to nag about it. It was mainly easy to understand.
Thank you for the conversation. It was a pleasure.
Also, even though I do speak finnish as I am 100% finnish person, I still prefer english as I speak better english than finnish. ^^ Yet even I'm not perfect in this.
Dodiin. Ihan ekana kymmenen pistettä ja viistoista papukaijamerkkiä päälle kun oot tehnyt noi lasit niin hyvin! Usein ne on vaa piirretty ihan kuin joku olis tuhrinu tussilla hahmon silmien ympärille mustat neliöt... Mutta nuo on upeat ja kaiken lisäksi varsin identtiset muodoltaan niiden kanssa jotka nyt löytyy omasta päästä : D Mietin etukäteen, että miltäköhän Dien näyttää sun piirtämänä kun oon niin tottunu näkemään sitä vain kolmen tyypin piirtämänä (itseni mukaan lukien), mutta upealtahan se näyttää! Ihan itseltään ja nuo viikset! Ihanaisesti kiemurtelevat <3 Ilme muutenkin niin Dienmäinen kuin olla ja osaa! Asento on kanssa mukava. En vaan voi olla ihastelematta miten hyvin oon ton tumman raidankin saanut lisäiltyä tähän! Tiesitkö, että ainoa moka, minkä tästä löydän on se että beessi väri puuttuu vatsasta, mutta siitä en nipota sen kummemmin kun oon miettimässä, että deletoinko koko beessin sävyn värikartasta : D Tätä voisi ylistää niin monella tapaa, et uskokaan kuinka harvinaista on, että en löydä mitään ihmeempää vinettämistä Dien-fan artista! No okei, etujalat vähän liian lyhytkarvaiset, jos oikein pilkkua aletaan nussimaan oikein kunnolla, mutta eikähän jätetä pilkku tänään rauhaan! Ihailen sitä kuinka saat käsin aikaiseksi näin siistiä jälkeä! Asia johon en itse kunnolla pysty kun aina lopuksi vaan suttaan jotain kun kyllästyn... Ja ei saa unohtaa! Noi silmät! Silmät on asia, joista tykkään melkein eniten kaikis piirroksissa. Noi on vaan niin vangitsevat! Varmaan unohdin mainita ties mitä, mutta eiköhän kaikki tärkeä tullut löpistyä!
Todellakin kannatti osallistua tohon kisaan! Upean kuvasen teit palkinnoksi :>
HUIII apua kun on pitkä kommentti! ;u; Mukava kuulla että tykkäät, parista virheestä huolimatta. Tuo beessi minun piti tosiaan korjata koneella, kun skanneri söi sen, mutta tietenkin unohdin sen sitten. >__< Voisin koittaa tehdä asialle jotain, kunhan pääsen kotiin. ÄÄÄ en osaa vastata mitään järkevää tämmöiseen mahtikommenttiin, mutta kiitos hurjasti! ;u;